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Podcast: Looking beyond the pandemic

A conversation with Sandra Kelly, UK director of People 1st International, and corporate learning specialist, Nigel Paine, about the ways employers are supporting their people during the Covid-19 crisis and what HR and L&D professionals can do to prepare for the future.

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Sandra Kelly is UK director for People 1st International, where she leads our work across the UK to drive an employer-led approach to skills in the retail, hospitality, travel and aviation sectors. Her deep insights into current and future skills needs are borne out of the strong relationships she has with industry, giving her a unique insight into the challenges these sectors are facing.

Nigel Paine is a speaker, writer and broadcaster on the topics of learning and development, technology and leadership. Formerly the head of L&D for the BBC, he has over 25 years of experience in corporate learning. Nigel teaches a doctoral programme at an Ivy League University, has written three recent books, presents a monthly programme on Learning Now TV, as well as co-hosting the From Scratch Podcast with Martin Couzins.


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